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有朋友冶炼过大马士革钢的吗?也有人叫花钢
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

    发表于 2014-6-19 06:26:51 | 显示全部楼层
    目前这种材料还只有外国人做.中国人是觉得需求量不大,所以没人做
    但是国内有很多人用这种材料做刀具的.
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    [LV.1]初来乍到

    发表于 2014-7-25 05:55:53 | 显示全部楼层
    据说生产此钢是熔化、锻炼和热处理相结合的产物。
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-7-25 12:27:29 | 显示全部楼层
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    纯粹的大马士革钢早就绝迹啦。现在所谓的大马士革钢都是人工折叠出来的。
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-7-25 12:34:04 | 显示全部楼层
    给你转个帖子过来,大家一起开开眼界。

    Making a Damascus Feather Blade
    The Damascus Feather Pattern is historically very old. I fell in love with this pattern several years ago and have been making this steel on regular basis since then. To make this pattern one must have the ability to forge weld a good sized billet and to make a clean hot cut in a billet. Power equipment, though not required, makes the work go faster. I use a KB-1 Kuhn power hammer and a 24-ton press.



                                   
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    The prepared billet ready for welding shows the individual layers of contrasting steel. I use carbon steels for their ability to weld readily together and for ease of heat-treating. One steel is type 1080 (0.95 % carbon) and the other is type 15n20 (Carbon 0,78 %, Ni 2,1 %). The alternating layers are bundled together and a handle is welded on one end to hold the billet in the forge while bringing it up to welding temperature.



                                   
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    This picture shows the billet in the forge coming up to welding temperature, which is approximately 2200 degrees F (1200 degrees C).



                                   
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    As the billet is heating it is removed before it reaches welding temperature to apply flux. The flux is applied to prevent oxidation form occurring between the individual layers. The flux I use is anhydrous borax. When forge welding, it is very important to have clean metal surfaces, proper temperature, and no oxides forming from oxygen on the pieces to be welded.




                                   
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    Once the billet reaches the welding temperature, it is quickly removed from the forge and brought to either a hammer or press for forging together into one piece of steel. This picture shows the billet being welded on a 24-ton press. Welding occurs from heat and compression not from power. One could also use a hand hammer to weld the billet together too. Using a power hammer and/or press speeds up the process.



                                   
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    Wire brushing scale off the welded billet. Scale is removed from the billet after the weld has been made. Again, clean steel is essential.



                                   
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    This picture shows the completed billet welded into one piece of solid steel. The billet is now ready to drawn out (i.e. hammered out) into a longer and narrow piece for cutting and refolding or stacking the pieces to increase the layer count. The number of layers in a billet can be increased to whatever number the smith wants. Different layer counts give different visual pattern effects. The more layers the more welding.



                                   
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    Billet under the hammer being drawn out. The hammer is an air German Kuhn KB-1 75 pounds US (35 Kilo)



                                   
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    Partially drawn piece being reheated in forge.



                                   
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    Billet being drawn and finished for next step in the process.



                                   
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    Detail of drawn billet marked for final cutting and stacking. After the billet has been drawn out to the desired size the piece is marked for cutting and re-stacking.



                                   
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    The cut pieces are stacked with the end grain (cut faces) in the same orientation. The stack is tacked welded to hold it together for forge welding. Notice the visible pattern of each individual piece within the stack. It is these patterns, when welded together, which will produce the basis for the final feather pattern.



                                   
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    Stacked billet in forge. Again the new billet is heated to welding temperature in the forge.



                                   
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    At welding temperature the billet is welded on the press.



                                   
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    After the stack has been welded, it is reheated in the forge and cut in the press with a hot cut tool



                                   
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    After the billet is cut in half, it is immediately refluxed and hammered back together, reheated to welding temperature and welded back into one piece.



                                   
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    The billet has been re-welded, hammered, drawn and shaped for blades. Note how the cutting process pulled the layers to make the feather pattern.



                                   
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    Using a band saw, the finished billet is cut into individual blade blanks.
    The pattern is revealed in the billet.



                                   
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    Finally the blade is forged to shape. In many patterns the forging is very light, as to not distort it .

    and the finished knife!!



                                   
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    [LV.6]常住居民II

    发表于 2014-9-17 08:09:49 | 显示全部楼层
    看不懂啊!
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2014-9-17 08:18:24 | 显示全部楼层
    回复 5# rexxar


        太漂亮了,原来是这样做出来的。
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

    发表于 2015-2-2 20:02:47 | 显示全部楼层
    回复 4# rexxar
    大马士革钢卖的就是花纹
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2015-2-3 08:21:29 | 显示全部楼层
    这么漂亮的刀纹,,
    其实在中国也有做的,,好像是用在铸剑方面
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    [LV.7]常住居民III

    发表于 2015-2-3 13:55:11 | 显示全部楼层
    好漂亮的花纹
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    [LV.7]常住居民III

    发表于 2015-2-3 13:58:51 | 显示全部楼层
    有个疑问,那锻打就真的结合的那么好,会不会从中间断开?
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    [LV.8]以坛为家I

    发表于 2015-2-6 15:01:51 | 显示全部楼层
    挺漂亮的,要是有机会自己做一下
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    [LV.7]常住居民III

    发表于 2015-2-6 20:18:18 | 显示全部楼层
    怎么熔炼?也想知道阿,好漂亮的花纹
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

    发表于 2015-2-7 10:34:23 | 显示全部楼层
    可以直接熔炼得到的吗?
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2015-2-7 16:30:53 | 显示全部楼层
    回复 14# 铸造小猫


        多层折叠锻打出来的啊
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    [LV.10]以坛为家III

    发表于 2015-2-7 17:13:19 | 显示全部楼层
    回复 11# fbi-2008

    有一张照片,撒白色粉末的那张,里面有提到:使用无水硼砂做助熔剂,保证熔合面无氧化皮。
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    [LV.7]常住居民III

    发表于 2015-2-7 22:06:02 | 显示全部楼层
    回复 16# rexxar


        学习了,谢谢
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    [LV.Master]伴坛终老

    发表于 2015-2-7 23:04:49 | 显示全部楼层
    回复 16# rexxar
    学习了,都谢分享。感觉这东西现在更多的是考验工人操作水准了
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    [LV.3]偶尔看看II

    发表于 2015-3-6 15:59:58 | 显示全部楼层
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    [LV.9]以坛为家II

    发表于 2015-3-10 09:55:11 | 显示全部楼层
    好漂亮啊
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